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Sylvine
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guinzburg wrote:
every x/y damage skill actually deals 1/1 damage on the first melee hit.


What, even Shadow Refuge and Terror Strike? o.O

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sylvine wrote:
Guinzburg wrote:
every x/y damage skill actually deals 1/1 damage on the first melee hit.


What, even Shadow Refuge and Terror Strike? o.O

~Sylv

Yes, but with additional +%ED. So you won't boost your poison damage, for example, but you will do more physical damage with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terror Strike is 3/2, lol.

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UberNuber wrote:
I would like to see not just more skills based on stat point allocation, but more 'non traditional' methods of calculating damage, e.g. Arcane Torrent, Psi Storm.


Median 1 had an absolute torrent of these. Lemures was basically what Magic Missiles is now, except it did damage based on the difference between max mana and max life. I think there was one that did damage based on gold in stash, too.

This is absolutely an unholy paladin thing, too. +1% Mind Flay damage per 10K gold carried? Very Happy
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Sylvine
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

archon256 wrote:

Yes, but with additional +%ED. So you won't boost your poison damage, for example, but you will do more physical damage with it.


Erm... I don't get it. So You're saying that a single-target skill that has " deals 3/2 weapon damage" in its description actually deals 1/1 weapon damage on the initial melee strike (which is, uh...the entirity of the skill), but with additional +%ED. Okay. Now I'm confused. So Ways damage are not actually affected by the Shadow Refuge modifier, but ARE affected by Hades Gate's 5/4 modifier?

(If this wasn't D2 we're talking about, I'd probably dismiss my own question as trolling, but here? Anything is possible Wink )

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore archon, he's drunk.
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Guinzburg
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bad, i actually meant the skills that spawn a nova with X/Y damage.
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Xypherous
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait.. wait..

A skill that does damage per gold carried?

*Brain explodes*

So.. many.. ideas.. but.. can't.. implement due to lack of.. map..

-sobs-
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Flaming Toadstool
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrotherLaz wrote:
This is absolutely an unholy paladin thing, too. +1% Mind Flay damage per 10K gold carried? Very Happy


That would be pretty cool. I didn't know you could do that. I guess I learn something new everyday Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrotherLaz wrote:
This is absolutely an unholy paladin thing, too. +1% Mind Flay damage per 10K gold carried? Very Happy

Overpowered in hardcore mode! Very Happy

Seriously, do it! The interesting damage/skill concepts are way more entertaining than the usual "max stats" paradigm in Diablo II, just avoid the quirky skills like Soulshatter. Wink
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Guinzburg
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now THAT's what i'm talking about.

i hope it doesn't end like the annihilarious though.
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